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The 1975’s Matthew Healy Addresses Derogatory Podcast Comments, Apologizes to Ice Spice

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The 1975’s Matthew Healy, March 2023 (Mauricio Santana/Getty Images)

The 1975’s Matthew Healy Addresses Derogatory Podcast Comments, Apologizes to Ice Spice

Guesting on the Adam Friedland Show podcast in February, Healy laughed as the hosts mocked Chinese, Hawaiian, and Japanese accents. He told a New Zealand crowd he was “kind of a bit sorry.”

The 1975’s Matthew Healy has apologized to Ice Spice for his derogatory comments on the Adam Friedland Show podcast in February, Rolling Stone reports. Speaking at a 1975 concert in New Zealand, Healy acknowledged that he “can take it too far sometimes in front of too many people” and said, “I don’t want Ice Spice to think I’m a dick. I love you, Ice Spice. I’m so sorry.” But he failed to address wider criticism of the podcast appearance.

Healy has been under fire since the podcast aired in February. During the show, Healy admitted to sending an unreturned direct message to Ice Spice. As a result, Healy and Adam Friedland explained to co-host Nick Mullen who Ice Spice is, which led to Mullen calling the rapper an “Inuit Spice Girl” and a “chubby Chinese lady” before he and Friedland imitated her imagined accent, based on their perception of her racial background. Healy egged on the hosts as they imitated Chinese and Hawaiian accents. Later in the podcast, Healy laughed as Friedland and Mullen imitated Japanese accents.

The three of them also made chauvinistic jokes about women throughout the podcast, and did a segment on how the LGBTQ+ community perceives queerbaiting. Healy said it was not offensive to “the gays” but to “young girls who think it’s a new thing.” When one of the hosts joked that gay men enjoy being queerbaited, Healy gently backtracked, saying, “Maybe it’s not all the gay guys, but it’s a lot of them.” In the rest of the podcast, he gave little if any pushback against offensive remarks, and joked, “Yeah, that’s what Ice Spice is like,” when the hosts mocked the rapper’s imagined accent.

After the episode aired, ESEA Music, a United Kingdom–based society of East and Southeast Asian people working in music, issued a statement condemning Healy’s “flagrant racism and complicity in laughing along at harmful Asian tropes.” As well as summarizing the podcast’s content, the statement drew attention to Healy’s position, at the time, as a director at Dirty Hit Ltd., the company that owns the 1975’s label home, Dirty Hit. The label has signed several artists of Asian descent, including Rina Sawayama, Saya Gray, Wallice (who is currently supporting the 1975), No Rome, and Beabadoobee, the statement noted. Sawayama commented on the post, “what the actual fuck.”

Speaking to the crowd in Auckland, Healy avoided reference to other contentious elements from the podcast, but said his “joking got misconstrued.” He added, “I just feel a bit bad, and I’m kind of a bit sorry if I’ve offended you. Ice Spice, I’m sorry. It’s not because I’m annoyed that me joking got misconstrued. It’s because I don’t want Ice Spice to think I’m a dick. I love you, Ice Spice. I’m so sorry.”

According to Rolling Stone, Healy also said, “The truth is, I see a sign that says like, ‘Matty, I hope you’re OK.’ I feel a bit bad, to be honest, because I feel like I’ve been a bit irresponsible. It’s very well for me to say, ‘I don’t understand how famous I am. I don’t like being famous.’ But reality is reality. And I think that I’ve said some things or kind of, I make a joke out of everything. That’s my thing. And I can take it too far sometimes in front of too many people. And I feel a bit embarrassed. So that’s the truth.”

He added, “I’m making jokes about shit because because if I don’t, then I have to be really sincere and I don’t like doing that. And I know that this is a paradox, but this is really freaking me out, and I feel like I need to do this. If this is part of the story, I’m a little bit sorry about shit that I’ve said, sometimes. I never meant to hurt anybody.”

The episode of The Adam Friedland Show featuring Matthew Healy has been removed from Spotify and Apple. It remains available on YouTube.

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